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AD Schema Owner Problem

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Old 30th July 2006, 13:45
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Installed new Windows 2003 Server. Tranfered the FSMO Roles using the GUI and run regserv32 schmmgmt.dll. DllRegisterServer in schmmgmt.dll succeeded. However, the following error appeared but everything replicated and the new DC seems not to have a problem except as explained below.
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dcpromo the old server and it wouldn't work. Had to use /forceremoval. Server was then removed from the network.

NSlookp works correctly. Netdiag and DCdiag also appear ok when compared to previous printouts from the original DC. However when I went to forestprep an Exchange installation on a member server, I get an error.
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Try to run NTDSUTIL on the DC, get as far as metadata cleanup: and this error appears;
Error 80070057 parsing input - illegal syntax
Googled and searched TechNet but they all seem to point to using ntdsutil to cleaning up the metadata to fix the error. Hard to do when the error won't let you get to the commands. Also tried seizing the roles (even though they appear to have moved to the new server) but again the parsing error stops me from proceeding past fsmo manitenance.

Netdiag - netdiag.txt
DCdiag - dcdiag.txt

Can anyone see something that I have missed or something I may have screwed up. My apologies if the post appears a bit jumbled but boy do I have one hell of a headache now. Must replace the crappy CRT on the server.
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Old 1st August 2006, 00:02
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Default Re: AD Schema Owner Problem

You may need to seize the FSMO:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255504/

Also, I dont know if the schema changes of Win 2003 was replicate so you may remove the first DC too soon.

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Quote:
Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders
Warning: CN=NTDS Settings\0ADEL:c6017be0-2f26-43d1-895a-acabd593acaf,CN=E1345FS001\0ADEL:74091dc8-40e0-4f03-bbd7-90fc561bc4db,CN=Servers,CN=Default-First-Site-Name,CN=Sites,CN=Configuration,DC=admin,DC=joachim ,DC=melb,DC=catholic,DC=edu,DC=au is the Schema Owner, but is deleted.
You won't be able to transfer the FSMO role as the owner is already presto. Seize the schema master to one of the working/replicating DCs
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but again the parsing error stops me from proceeding past fsmo manitenance.
Yes, as every1 sugessted seizing the Schema master role should resolve the issue. As you mentioned earlier that you are not able to go past the fsmo maintenance. Illegal syntax simply means you are not typing the command properly. Refer to the KB article provided above
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Yuval, AD Users and Computer, Operations Master told me the PID, PCD & Infrastructure Roles had moved and AD Domins & Trusts told me Domain naming operations master was also in the correct location. Schema Master transfer also appeared to transfer correctly.

Guy, unfortunately there is only one DC on this network. Would it work if I installed a temp DC, seized the Roles to temp DC and then seized again to the present DC? Bit messy though.

Kunal, the command was typed correctly. I even typed help at the NTDSUTIL prompts to make sure I didn't make a typo. I also had the below article printed out sitting beside me. (Only thing i didn't try was Copy & Paste.)
I also used this excellent article and another and this. However, I will try yet again and have someone watch while I enter the commands. This should rule out actual syntax errors.

Thanks, I appreciate the input.
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Default Re: AD Schema Owner Problem

maybe what late, but it's worth to look at it:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;305476
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-1457614.php

(and be sure you're enterprise admin )

Oh, you're new dc, did you also made him GC again?
did you monitor with replmon if everything was replicated?
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did you monitor with replmon if everything was replicated?
OUCH! That is the sound an idiot makes when he kicks himself. (I shall not forget Replmon ever again.)

Thanks Marcel! Yes, it made the new DC a GC. I reviewed the links and I had a printout of the TechNet2 article. I had the parsing error that stopped me from being able to get to the Roles prompt in NTDSUTIL.

Spent too much time on this so I will add a temp DC, seize roles and then seize them again from the present DC. Must have done something wrong somewhere along the line. Have only done this process 3 times so I am not really proficient at it.

Thanks, I do appreciate the input and will let you know the result of this afternoons endeavours.
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Installed a temp server, dcpromoed it, seized the Roles, made sure everything was replicated to the DC that was causing me grief and then seized the Roles again to the actual DC. Rebooted and was then able to run forestprep and domainprep on the member server that was getting Exchange Server installed. Temp server ripped from network and disposed of when no one was looking.

Thank you for the suggestions and participation in my troubles. I do greatly appreciated.
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Temp server ripped from network and disposed of when no one was looking.
Hope you did not forget to dcpromo the temp server down. And if you did not, you will have to perform metadata cleanup to remove the leftovers of the temp DC

EDIT: missing "no"
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Guy

Are you sure what you wrote there? I thought if you DCPROMOed a server down it did clean up - it's only if you forgot to before you removed it you would have a lot of cleaning up to do.
But then again, I only do SBS swing migrations, so what do I know
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